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"We don’t want to burden existing taxpayers for paying for infrastructure [...] to bring new people into the country," is honestly such an interesting comment on the part of the mayor. Population growth and the extra one-time infrastructure expansion costs that come with it genuinely are a little different than just factoring in infrastructure replacement appropriately (which as Terry notes municipalities also often don't collect enough revenue from existing taxpayers for in the first place). This link is about Australia but is also extremely relevant to Canada in terms of some of the ignored costs (some private, some public) of expanding capital stock. https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-huge-hidden-cost-of-population-growth-20160219-gmyddb.html

The very frustrating part is boomers themselves (who are not the only existing homeowners but I will pick on them anyway) were such enormous beneficiaries of public investment to accommodate them despite the claims they have paid their share. And, they will benefit from population growth both through increased housing demand and the economic growth to pay for services and benefits as they age. But there is a real difficulty for municipalities both because they don't have all the revenue sources other levels of government do (e.g., have more limited ability to benefit financially from growth) and also population growth might have diffuse benefits (say for the income tax base) but local infrastructure costs concentrated in municipalities that are growing faster than others. So definitely a tax shift makes sense, but I also think that it makes sense to acknowledge that the costs of growth are real costs (not just overspending) even while acknowledging new residents are not the only beneficiaries of growth. I saw "the beneficiaries of growth should pay for growth" once which is much less pithy than the original but also probably right.

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Two generations ago many seniors were living in poverty (according to Stats Can the poverty rate for seniors even in 1976 was 36.9%). This is why the CPP (1966) and OAS (1952) were introduced. By 2021 the poverty rate for seniors was 7.4%. The capital gains exemption on housing was also part of that same picture (solidified in 1971). When housing (and let's remember it was often 1 person working) price to income ratio was 2 (1960's), not 12 (2023), and a down payment took a couple years to accumulate not 20 years, it was much easier to pay off that house during one's working years. Most boomer homeowners had their homes paid off much much earlier than a GenXer or Millenial can ever hope to pay off their home (even with 2 incomes) which leads to an extraordinary uphill battle to additionally save for retirement for the GenXer or Millenial.

Canadians nearing retirement without a workplace pension plan have median savings of only $3,000. Only 39% of Canadians have a workplace pension and only 27% have a defined benefit pension plan. So the principal residence is the main retirement savings vehicle for the large majority of Canadian. CPP/OAS/GIS do not make for luxury lifestyle by any measure and many people do not work full time for 40 years to get the maximum CPP (especially women who have a greater childcare/eldercare burden of responsibility).

I personally don't think that rising house prices inflate people's expectations of retirement, I believe Canadians are dependent on those rising house prices to supplement their government pensions and LTC costs.

I think the question is, how do we organize saving for retirement so that people don't rely on their principal residence as a defacto pension plan? And at the same time can we reduce housing prices by getting away from this financialization of housing?

If Canada were to impose a significant capital gains tax on the principal residence would Canadians avoid paying off their homes? Would one pay as little as possible for a long as possible, effectively making mortgage payments more like low cost rental rather than investment contributions? Without tax-free capital gains on the principal residence I believe most people would carry as much of a mortgage balance as they could their whole life - ie keep the gain as minimal as possible. And would those same folks then direct more of their income to actual retirement savings vehicles like RRSPs and TFSAs (and minimize mortgage payments)? Obviously this would be far better for the economy as more cash would flow into investments which supports enterprise and economic growth. Canada's productivity is low in part because we don’t invest much in business enterprise compared to other OECD countries, and we have much to much money tied up in non productive real estate.

Would the government ever consider incentivizing people to invest in RRSPs (ie beyond the tax break)? For example would the government consider matching contributions for say the first $3000 invested per year (a small amount compared to what they invest in a public sector employee's pension per year)?

Would housing prices drop since the principal residence is no longer a tax haven? Would Mom and Pop investors/ venture capital flee the housing sector? Would people move out of their homes in a more timely way when the house is too large for them after the kids move out?

I think we can't blame people for behaving the way they do and hoping for big gains in housing. They’re seeking financial security for themselves in just the way the system incentivizes them to.

If we don’t like this then we have change the rules of the game to incentivize different outcomes.

But this is wholesale change and it’s hard to imagine there would ever be the political will or even the planning time needed given the relatively short mandates of government.

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