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Valerie's avatar

Honestly, I feel like at this point most of the people saying this *know* they are wrong. No one wants to feel like their advantages came from luck or even unfairness, and pointing out supposed overspending gets around some of that cognitive dissonance. There's a real sense in which some older people want young people to 'play the part' of striving for a goal that is not actually attainable, like they pretend they could muster up some sympathy if young people tried harder and still failed. (But, sometimes people treat sacrifices like living with roommates longer or living at home as a failure to sacrifice.) But I know (just a few) people who have downpayments that at one time could have bought modest homes outright, and still can't afford anything appropriate for their life stage and family plans. I don't believe at this point that anyone really believes you are making up that difference in lattes, if they ever did.

But even beyond that, young people are mostly making choices that make sense for our lives. I saw a great article (https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/society/2022/02/boomer-mathematics-why-older-generations-cant-understand-the-millennial-struggle-to-buy-a-house) about how older people act like many things that didn't exist when they were young are more expensive than they are. A netflix subscription costs barely more than a single movie ticket, which would not have seemed like a wild luxury for most. Some things that seem like luxuries are substitutes for space or time or even more expensive things. An occasional delivery or uber ride is cheaper than a car, and someone buying meal kits is not necessarily any lazier than someone who (on average) had more time at home. I even increasingly know people who don't have space to cook much because there are more people sharing a kitchen. Some budgeting advice from older people feels like it's from a different world. 'Get a chest freezer to stock up on sales' and... put it where? Most people I know are making pretty reasonable trade-offs giving what is actually expensive (as much space as previous generations enjoyed) and what isn't (basically everything else).

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Glen Brown's avatar

My Dad, who has been gone since 2009 railed against the reverse mortgage adds. They embody cultural sickness. They are effective and resonate because they capture the American/Canadian greed ethic. Look to the advertising slogans and you see were the bulk of Canadian values reside. As a Kid I was struck by L’Oréal's "Because I am worth it." and E. F. Hutton's “We make money the old-fashioned way. We earn it” Humans are so vulnerable to myths-assumptions especially when they are self- justifying assumptions. The bottom line is this. We know that success is based on good fortune taking advantage from advantaged positions. Successful people have compounded advantages unsuccessful people have compounded disadvantages. The thing is to get people to give up some advantage for the disadvantaged... rather than just say would in a poll. As a consumer society rather than a civics society we are not very willing to sacrifice our positions or our time rail against the extremely advantaged keeping the disadvantaged-disadvantaged. Even though we know better we know "it's good to be King" King of the castle. “I’m the King of the castle, you’re a dirty little rascal” is the nursery rhyme that our culture was nurtured on. Yes, we have other values but this one dominates our ideology.

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